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Thu, Nov. 3rd, 2005 11:18 pm (UTC)
ltwelve2

AAAARRGGGHHHH! When will these people get it through their thick fucking skulls: THERE IS NOTHING TO TEACH!!

You can't give I.D. equal time, because it doesn't say anything except 'evolution is wrong', affords no testable hypothesis, proposes no mechanism, and, in short, IS NOT FUCKING SCIENCE.

This shit burns me out. But, if you need copious reading on the subject, I recommend:

www.talkreason.org

Thank you, and have a nice day.

Fri, Nov. 4th, 2005 01:48 am (UTC)
erijan

the "IT'S NOT FUCKING SCIENCE" is what makes me CA-RAZY. I can see how teaching this perspective could perhaps be relevant in, say, a religious education class, but since we don't teach philisophy of science/religion the answer IS NOT TO PUT IT IN A BIOLOGY CLASS.

The question that I wonder is this: Is there an appropriate platform in schools in which to discuss I.D-like issues? Should we have some kind of religious education program, and if so, how could we possibly develop it in such a way that it would not threaten the larger population, but instead actually be useful in teaching alternative life perspectives. The ID problem to me is not only Americans' seeming fear of science, but a failure to use basic logic (Perhaps these are so inter-twined as to be the same problem. Since my recent conversion to social science, I believe people are capable of using logic without necessarily invoking the term "science", which can scare them into hysterics). Maybe we should make logic classes mandatory. I just wish there were some way to make people think.

Fri, Nov. 4th, 2005 05:53 pm (UTC)
magsterama

"Intelligent design is the theory that a supernatural hand, and not just the random process of natural selection, guided the development of life on Earth."

Interestingly enough, at least with this particular quote it could be refering to God in the Christian sense or Gaia or really any deity or supernatural force at all. Casper the Friendly Ghost, the being behind evolution? Or maybe it's Quality? I also have to wonder what the hell the actual curriculum change would be - add one paragraph saying "There appears to be some supernatural phenomenon behind evolution"? WTF?

I think it would be awesome to teach a class in alternative life perspectives. Of course, that's a pretty huge subject because you could talk about differences in religions/spiritual beliefs, differences in cultural backgrounds, generational differences, social programming/conditioning, not to mention all the various tactics for manipulating information (spin doctoring, neurolinguistics, etc.). It would be a pretty awesome class, though, and I think it should be taught somewhere in early high school. Maybe everyone could bring their parents in too. You'd have to have a really good mediator there, though, to keep people from making personal attacks.